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Of course, this just describes first wave/second wave goth rock and not the outgrowths/sub-genres instrumental characteristics. But it's the general gist and you can hear a mixture of these elements in every goth song you listen to as that's what makes it goth. Also, yes, yes artists/bands can definitely be goth if they don't identify with the ...
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Post punk was the predecessor of goth. It's going to sound much less polished than later goth. Some post punk bands are considered goth, but not all post punk bands are goth. Joy Division would be considered post punk.
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I mean, that's just a really basic explanation, and obviously you begin to pick up on a lot more of the subtler nuances as you listen to Goth music, but that basic interaction is Kind of what defines the "Goth Sound" for a lot of people, and probably one of the easiest things to pick up on when you're first getting into the music, much like chugging guitars are very much a staple of metal music.
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